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. >> that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is that they become the party of rich people. and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei ining blamed by a pri contender w
. >> that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >>...
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they want things and who is going to give them things president obama he knows it and he ran on it. you know we've been paying for that stuff all our lives it's. incredible even mitt romney himself blamed his loss on the president handing out gifts to minority women impoverished americans and of course therefore republicans think that if they can just keep the base of the base reagan's fictional welfare queen in there by and large dark skinned relatives from voting then republicans will begin to win again this is genuinely their strategy but there's something even more sinister than that in the republican plans the post election be little lean democratic voters as moochers to use the words of iran as nothing. pre-election efforts to stop democratic voters vote in the last two years more than twenty restrictive voter suppression laws were passed by republicans in seventeen states including five battleground states voter suppression id laws new obstacles to add to voter registration and cuts to early voting these were all used by republican state legislators governors and election off
they want things and who is going to give them things president obama he knows it and he ran on it. you know we've been paying for that stuff all our lives it's. incredible even mitt romney himself blamed his loss on the president handing out gifts to minority women impoverished americans and of course therefore republicans think that if they can just keep the base of the base reagan's fictional welfare queen in there by and large dark skinned relatives from voting then republicans will begin...
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he knows while obama wants the debt ceiling debate removed, senate majority leader harry reid, he don't have the 51 votes he needs to get that passed so mcconnell is going to trap reed in a corner. >> an unlimited authority to borrow whenever he wants to for whatever amount he wants to? if the majority leader supports that proposal i would hope we can get a vote on it to give his members a chance to express themselves as to whether or not they think that's a good way forward for our country. >> jon: [bleep]. it is a classic opening. he's proposing a bill that he doesn't support, mcconnell, knowing that the president will look bad when harry reid refuses to call a vote on it >> senator mcconnell made a serious offer dealing with the debt ceiling in this country one of the most important issues facing the country. it's a serious offer. i personally haven't read it. my staff has looked at it. it's important enough that i would like to have a vote on it this afternoon. >> jon: haven't seen that before. harry reid just ate mcconnell's chess pieces. turns out reed had the 51 votes to pass mcc
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. >> on obama, he fought a campaign that was pretty skillful on the ground where it mattered in the swing states. probably why he won. by any kind of criminal just you say he didn't live up to the promise he gave four years ago. what do you want him to do to show some fulfillment of that promise. what i want him to do and what needs to be done have separate things. i do know that we've had a lot of programs, government funded programs for years now that represent both sides of the aisle. both sides want everything they want. both sides have found way with this congress over the last several years to get much of what they want. we bought it on credit. the time has come. we have to pay the bill. >> argument of the moment, you can see the republicans being pushed into this impossible situation for them to win where two-thirds of americans in all the polls are quite happy for the rich 2% to be taxed more. the republicans have boxed themselves into position come january 1st they might be allowing all the middle class to be taxable to try to save the skins of very wealthy americans. that's not
. >> on obama, he fought a campaign that was pretty skillful on the ground where it mattered in the swing states. probably why he won. by any kind of criminal just you say he didn't live up to the promise he gave four years ago. what do you want him to do to show some fulfillment of that promise. what i want him to do and what needs to be done have separate things. i do know that we've had a lot of programs, government funded programs for years now that represent both sides of the aisle....
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when president obama was in tough straights he went back and did something. i've been fighting this battle for a long time as attorney general, the governor, now for what i believe in. it's time for president obama to stand up to the bullies of the n.r.a. and gun advocates. no more excuses about protecting votes. now is the time to take a tough stand on oh the issues we believe in. marshall your forces, mr. president and bring real change. gun control is necessary and delay means more death and horror. for more on how to make mentionful change on the issue i'm joined by a colorado shooting survivor and now and outreach assistant with the mayor. thank you both for joining us. this issue comes back repeatedly and unfortunately fades into oblivion just as quickly. can you sense in your day to day advocacy, day to day since this horrific day over the weekend what has changed? >> i really believe the momentum is in my favor. people are as fed up as bob costas is with the state of affairs, currently. people want change, and they want to see the president lead when
when president obama was in tough straights he went back and did something. i've been fighting this battle for a long time as attorney general, the governor, now for what i believe in. it's time for president obama to stand up to the bullies of the n.r.a. and gun advocates. no more excuses about protecting votes. now is the time to take a tough stand on oh the issues we believe in. marshall your forces, mr. president and bring real change. gun control is necessary and delay means more death and...
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i mean, obama was ripe for the taking. i don't know if i agree that that was deservedly so but they really, really could have brought him down and the vice presidential choice was critical. if you had romney who was plenty conservative for most people i know maybe not red states, christian conservatives, he needed a woman on the ticket. >> i was amazed he didn't go for another demographic. if he got marco rubio or rice assuming they would do it but -- >> if he went for meg whitman of california running for the senate and the chair -- the ceo of hewlett-packard. a serious woman as opposed to palin and the race in 2008. if he took a serious woman, he might have hosted a chance, i think. >> on obama, i mean, he ended up fighting a campaign that was pretty skillful on the ground where it mattered in the swing states. probably why he won. but you would say he didn't live up to the prams that he gave us four years ago. what does he have to do now? he can't face another election. what do you want him to do to show fulfillment of
i mean, obama was ripe for the taking. i don't know if i agree that that was deservedly so but they really, really could have brought him down and the vice presidential choice was critical. if you had romney who was plenty conservative for most people i know maybe not red states, christian conservatives, he needed a woman on the ticket. >> i was amazed he didn't go for another demographic. if he got marco rubio or rice assuming they would do it but -- >> if he went for meg whitman...
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-cio found democrats and minorities were far more likely to wait in long lines to vote obama voters were almost twice as likely to wait in a long voting line as romney voters and that was no accident and african-americans or hispanics or more than twice as likely to wait in vote long voting lines as white voters and that was no accident what republicans didn't account for in this election was the effect that these laws would have on democratic voter enthusiasm and those turnout chanelle hardy the vice president the national urban league explain the surge in african-american voter for for example saying we've been struggling for many years in our communities with how we make the argument that our parents and grandparents have handed down to us you must vote because people fought and died for you to have the right to vote so it's become a little less motivating the further away you get from those really visceral memories of what it took to get to the polls but then you bring back a thirty five state assault on our ability to vote and are really starts getting reminiscent all the things our
-cio found democrats and minorities were far more likely to wait in long lines to vote obama voters were almost twice as likely to wait in a long voting line as romney voters and that was no accident and african-americans or hispanics or more than twice as likely to wait in vote long voting lines as white voters and that was no accident what republicans didn't account for in this election was the effect that these laws would have on democratic voter enthusiasm and those turnout chanelle hardy...
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i think that president obama's right about this. but i think compromise is going to be necessary to achieve some result. >> let me bring in abbe. your father is known as a moderate republican and a good dealmaker, a man who used to negotiate. what do you make of this? and what does he make of this? >> i think morale is so low right now. the country's so divided. especially for my generation. we're the ones that are going to be handed down the $60 trillion deficit. they will come to a deal. but right now, it's political theater. and it's probably going to look like the simpson-bowles. that will come full-circle again. >> here's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle class to pay more tax to save 2% of the wealthiest americans paying a little bit more. and that's a very bad position for the republicans to find themselves in, isn
i think that president obama's right about this. but i think compromise is going to be necessary to achieve some result. >> let me bring in abbe. your father is known as a moderate republican and a good dealmaker, a man who used to negotiate. what do you make of this? and what does he make of this? >> i think morale is so low right now. the country's so divided. especially for my generation. we're the ones that are going to be handed down the $60 trillion deficit. they will come to...
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before he was president obama. season. >> the way bush has done it, over the last eight years is to take out a credit cardback of china in the game of the children, driving up the national debt. that is irresponsible and unpatriotic. >> eric: unpatriotic. $5 trillion in debt. president obama will add ten, 11, 12 trillion in debt. when he is done with this. >> for years, president obama running when he was senator, running for president always said that the bush tax cuts were only for the rich and only benefit the rich. now he says that the republicans are holding hostage for the lower and middle class. the tax cuts will expire. hypocrisy knows no bounds. >> bob: you just keep shooting your mouth off over and over about this stuff. i said if they came up with a deal on inflation adjustment on social security it would save money. >> dana: cola adjustment is not a big deal. >> bob: yes, you talk about a significant amount of money over ten years. here is the problem. means testing for medicare. >> eric: the problem is
before he was president obama. season. >> the way bush has done it, over the last eight years is to take out a credit cardback of china in the game of the children, driving up the national debt. that is irresponsible and unpatriotic. >> eric: unpatriotic. $5 trillion in debt. president obama will add ten, 11, 12 trillion in debt. when he is done with this. >> for years, president obama running when he was senator, running for president always said that the bush tax cuts were...
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obama was right for the taking. i don't know if i agree deservedly so. they really could have brought him down. i think if you had romney who was plenty conservative for most people i know maybe not for certain people in red states, certain christian conservatives, he needed to put a women on the ticket. >> he didn't get any kind of entry to. i think of marco rubio, condoleeza rice, assume theg would do it. at least he would have got -- >> if he went from meg whitman in california who ran for the senator and the chair of the ceo of hewlett-packard he may have won. if he took a serious woman as opposed to palin in the race in 2008. if he took a serious woman, he might have stood a chance, i think. >> obama, he ended up fighting a campaign. it was pretty skillful on the ground where it mattered in the swing states. did you say dent live up to the promise he gave four years ago. he can't face another election. what do you want him to do to really show fulfillment of that promise that we felt? >> i think that i want him to do and what i think needs to be don
obama was right for the taking. i don't know if i agree deservedly so. they really could have brought him down. i think if you had romney who was plenty conservative for most people i know maybe not for certain people in red states, certain christian conservatives, he needed to put a women on the ticket. >> he didn't get any kind of entry to. i think of marco rubio, condoleeza rice, assume theg would do it. at least he would have got -- >> if he went from meg whitman in california...
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we have zero dark 30, the movie, the critic laud for it lauds obama. will we get a obama film? maybe if they make president bush president again. we can't blame susan rice because she is black. insidious racism perpetrated by white lib who see skin color instead of achievement. go after clapper. a white male, no one cares about him. will that satisfy chris ma chews? they no longer speak truth to power. only thing is the what they spring from, a clown car with those who can stare at dead americans and say ahh. i've never seen so many hacks try to kill a story. if life was an obama dinner party, benghazi is the smelly homeless guy everyone wants to bounce. dana, this is your favorite story, as mine. how can the media continue ignoring this? will they? 'canes yes. >> greg: good answer. okay, eric? >> dana: but i do think because of this story there will be a couple of things that happen. one will be that rice will not be named secretary of state. and two is i hope and you saw op ed in the "wall street journal" today about security at diplomatic missions around the world. they have
we have zero dark 30, the movie, the critic laud for it lauds obama. will we get a obama film? maybe if they make president bush president again. we can't blame susan rice because she is black. insidious racism perpetrated by white lib who see skin color instead of achievement. go after clapper. a white male, no one cares about him. will that satisfy chris ma chews? they no longer speak truth to power. only thing is the what they spring from, a clown car with those who can stare at dead...
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and specific incidents when barack obama decided to pull all american troops out of iraq. an unprecedented step at the end of a conflict like that and i think that everybody in that region saw that and went, we can step in order and this is the result. >> do we have any options, bret? >> look, with a more engaged administration, we would be imposing a no-fly zone over a corners of syria and we could destroy assad's helicopters, which he's using against his own people and we could try to secure the chemical sites, we know with a high degree of position where they are. and unless we do that, we're going to be facing a deepening nightmare there. >> paul: let's turn to egypt, matt, is morsi and the muslim brotherhood staging, in essence, a coup? >> they're trying to continue -- i mean, it's a block in an egypt sense that he health two years ago, morsi would say to unblock it, to get rid of the courts, the military in his way, i've won elections and it's time to govern this country and the problem is half the country does not agree with him and the other problem, what he's he t
and specific incidents when barack obama decided to pull all american troops out of iraq. an unprecedented step at the end of a conflict like that and i think that everybody in that region saw that and went, we can step in order and this is the result. >> do we have any options, bret? >> look, with a more engaged administration, we would be imposing a no-fly zone over a corners of syria and we could destroy assad's helicopters, which he's using against his own people and we could...
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this barack obama made no campaign promises that he would cut spending, none. he didn't say he would reign in government, none. yet the american people said you know what? that's okay with us. you keep spending, you keep getting it up there and we will take our chances. do you think most americans understand this? >> not at all. and i think it's pretty easy to win elections when you give away candy that you borrow from the chinese. and i think the reason republicans lost is they didn't make the case. they didn't make the case sustainable. >> bill: what we did tonight mitt romney never did. he had made the economic case that we are making here tonight that, listen, all the cash, all of your 401(k)'s. all of your equities, all of your bonds, it's all gonna evaporate unless you stop the madness in washington. you can't have a president in four years borrow as much money as george washington through w. borrowed combined. it's impossible. it's crazy. you can't have it. if mitt romney had done that he might have won but he wouldn't or couldn't do it. last word. >> yo
this barack obama made no campaign promises that he would cut spending, none. he didn't say he would reign in government, none. yet the american people said you know what? that's okay with us. you keep spending, you keep getting it up there and we will take our chances. do you think most americans understand this? >> not at all. and i think it's pretty easy to win elections when you give away candy that you borrow from the chinese. and i think the reason republicans lost is they didn't...
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president obama standing his ground. >> we're going to have to say the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> he's been consistent on that but no one's talking right now, not a phone call or an e-mail and i'm not talking about just between the president and the speaker. nothing between their staffers, who are negotiating this deal yesterday. and john boehner is getting squeezed from both sides. now on the right he's taking heat over his propoesal that would raise $800 billion in revenue closing loopholes. on the left the white house won't talk to him until he agrees to raise rates. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell didn't support speaker boehner's plan. >> i have no particular observation other than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along, and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> i want to bring in "time" magazine's assistant editor and "national journal"'s chris freitz. does this come down to john boehner and what he's willing to do? >> i think what we've been s
president obama standing his ground. >> we're going to have to say the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> he's been consistent on that but no one's talking right now, not a phone call or an e-mail and i'm not talking about just between the president and the speaker. nothing between their staffers, who are negotiating this deal yesterday. and john boehner is getting squeezed from both sides. now on the right he's taking heat over his...
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. >> eric: we voted for obama. quid pro quo. can you talk to me about that comment? >> kimberly: the problem is they are suffering. what do they do to help detroit except for michael moore fleecing and taking the cash out of it. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in detroit because of his actions to bail him out. at least she is honest about what they are looking for. they are not honest about the problem. >> bob: pall ryan fleeced left and right. >> dana: you are hilarious. >> greg: i was hoping this was bacon. i thought they were bringing bacon home. i was depressed -- >> kimberly: you like bacon. >> greg: everybody got bacon instead of money it would be a better place. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, three stories that you will not believe the real story behind the shoeless nan the photo that made national headlines. atheists won a battle in the war on christmas taking down charlie brown. nudists in
. >> eric: we voted for obama. quid pro quo. can you talk to me about that comment? >> kimberly: the problem is they are suffering. what do they do to help detroit except for michael moore fleecing and taking the cash out of it. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in detroit because of his actions to bail him out. at...
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but i love doing it. >> donald trump tried famously to fire barack obama but as you know the president prevailed and one of the blanks in the president's platform was that taxes should go up for people making $250,000 a year. so is increased taxes inevitable for those 2 percenters. let's ask who better than the former presidential candidate himself our favorite former presidential candidate the host of his own hit radio and television shows the author most recently the dear chandler dear scarlet a wonderful book. governor mike huckabee joins us. so, elections have consequences. we're fond of saying. is that a consequence? will be the 2% be paying the additional tax. >> they might. i guess the real question is what is it that the president's to achieve by this? if it is to reduce the deficit, it won't happen because if they take that money it, may run the government for 8 days. so we're not talking about an amount of money that's really going to fundamentally change either the ability to fund government or reduce the deficit. is it because he wants to punish people at the top? why? what
but i love doing it. >> donald trump tried famously to fire barack obama but as you know the president prevailed and one of the blanks in the president's platform was that taxes should go up for people making $250,000 a year. so is increased taxes inevitable for those 2 percenters. let's ask who better than the former presidential candidate himself our favorite former presidential candidate the host of his own hit radio and television shows the author most recently the dear chandler dear...
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i had an opportunity to get to know president obama. i think he is a wonderful leader, and i think he leads with grace, which is most important for a situation like this where you have mutual respect, and as you know, the main partners are himself and speaker boehner. i think the fact that they met yesterday is a very encouraging sign. i have faith that they will be able to get this done. and i quo it's the right thing for america to reach a deal to work together, to be willing to compromise, and do what is right for the people instead of a party first. that's what america wants. >> governor, thank you very much for your time. i appreciate it. >> piers, my pleasure. thank you. >>> coming up next, the stories america is talking about. more nfl tragedy, a navy s.e.a.l. killed. a powerhouse panel back with that and more. we're working with a growing list of almost two thousand corporate partners - companies like microsoft, american red cross and adobe - to create options for you. not only that, we're using what we learn from these partners
i had an opportunity to get to know president obama. i think he is a wonderful leader, and i think he leads with grace, which is most important for a situation like this where you have mutual respect, and as you know, the main partners are himself and speaker boehner. i think the fact that they met yesterday is a very encouraging sign. i have faith that they will be able to get this done. and i quo it's the right thing for america to reach a deal to work together, to be willing to compromise,...
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test. >>> in the fiscal battle with democrats and the obama white house. first read then asks, what does a smart poker player usually do when holding a bad hand? you fold to live another day. nbc news senior political editor mark murray, a gambler as i hear. you're a texan. we all gamble. what would be the next logical hand? because it seems today a lot of republicans are saying let's get the bush tax cut issue dealt with and then wait until next year and would that be something that the democrats and the president would embrace? >> well, this is all about gaining maximum leverage and the better leverage of republicans right now to delay the bigger battle in to february when the debt ceiling would have to be increased. as youç mentioned, essentially acquiesing to the democrats and the white house for those making $250,000 and less and let's have the bigger battle when it comes to raising the debt ceiling. president obama essentially today said he's not willing to play that game. noting what happened in 2011 with the u.s. hurting its credit rating, just t
test. >>> in the fiscal battle with democrats and the obama white house. first read then asks, what does a smart poker player usually do when holding a bad hand? you fold to live another day. nbc news senior political editor mark murray, a gambler as i hear. you're a texan. we all gamble. what would be the next logical hand? because it seems today a lot of republicans are saying let's get the bush tax cut issue dealt with and then wait until next year and would that be something that...
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that i went to a private meeting with president obama at the white house. lots of people supported them, over for chats, coffee, doughnut ts burke this looks like the msnbc commentary, people who host those commentary shows that they're on the team? >> well, thank is the impression. i just don't see what use it is to go when you can't get anything out of the president. in other words, you're basically -- the problem with this is it seems to be an act of capitulation. please spin me -- >> lots of proponents have gone to off the record briefings. >> no. >> they've been described as influential. >> influential progressives. >> did they talk with you? >> what bothers me is they go about it in lockstep silence and they won't talk what they asked the president because they're not bound to off the record. they can me what they said, how they viewed this thing. but i called almost every one of these people, oh, i'm sorry, i can't say a word. this is like tor grets or something. >> at least you called them. let me get a bring. coming up next, a death in the subways
that i went to a private meeting with president obama at the white house. lots of people supported them, over for chats, coffee, doughnut ts burke this looks like the msnbc commentary, people who host those commentary shows that they're on the team? >> well, thank is the impression. i just don't see what use it is to go when you can't get anything out of the president. in other words, you're basically -- the problem with this is it seems to be an act of capitulation. please spin me --...
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let's face it. >> listen, obama done a lot of this, billy. he should have just said he wants to tax successful people. this whole rich thing has been wad bad it's a creepy thing he has done making people who do well to be bad guys. i know you don't have problems with him. you think he is a good guy. >> bill: no, no, no. i have a lot of problems with the class warfare business. you know that. >> it's creepy. he should say successful, he he shouldn't say rich. he is turning this into dr. shbago and i find it creepy by the president. >> bill: okay. talking about rich people, prince william and his wife kate middleton expecting a little royal person. do you care? are you following this? >> listen, that girl better hope that the kid doesn't have her father-in-law's ears or should should get hooked up to the epidural tomorrow. that is going to be the tough -- that's going to be a tough rafting trip there you know, billy, in england they come down the other side of the fallopian tube. i don't get the whole royalty thing. i watched beckett over the w
let's face it. >> listen, obama done a lot of this, billy. he should have just said he wants to tax successful people. this whole rich thing has been wad bad it's a creepy thing he has done making people who do well to be bad guys. i know you don't have problems with him. you think he is a good guy. >> bill: no, no, no. i have a lot of problems with the class warfare business. you know that. >> it's creepy. he should say successful, he he shouldn't say rich. he is turning this...